In short, my question is how do I take derivatives of functions that look like, $$\mathrm{Tr}(UM)$$ or $$\mathrm{Tr}(U^{\dagger}M)$$ by $U$ where $U$ and $M$ are $\mathrm{SU}(2)$ matrices. The longer story is that I am trying to derive force terms that are used in hybrid Monte Carlo simulations. A lot of that is physics so I don't want to post most of that here. With that being said, if this is an example of an XY problem, I would love some input. Most papers that I have come across haven't done a very good job of explaining exactly how these terms are derived. So, in longer format, the derivative that I am trying to take is of the following function: $$S = \frac{4}{g^2}\sum_{x,\mu < \nu}\left( 1 -\frac{1}{2}\mathrm{Tr}\left(U_{\mu}(x)U_{\nu}(x+a\hat{e}_{\mu})U_{\mu}^{\dagger}(x+a\hat{e}_{\nu})U_{\nu}^{\dagger}(x)\right) \right) $$ with respect to $A_{\mu}(x)$ where $A_{\mu}(x) = \sum_aA_{\mu}^a(x)\sigma^a$ where $\sigma^a$ are the Pauli matrices so that $A_{\mu}(x)$ is Hermitian. The matrices $U$ are defined by the $A$ matrices as $U_{\mu}(x) = e^{igA_{\mu}(x)}$. $\mu$ and $\nu$ are indices that run from $1$ to $4$. Of course what I'm really trying to find is $$\frac{\partial S}{\partial A_{\mu}(x)}$$ but that simplfies with the chain rule to $$ \frac{\partial U_{\mu}(x)}{\partial A_{\mu}(x)} \frac{\partial S}{\partial U_{\mu}(x)} = igU_{\mu}(x)\frac{\partial S}{\partial U_{\mu}(x)} $$.
2026-03-28 01:26:22.1774661182
Derivatives of Trace of $\operatorname{SU}(2)$ Matrices by Another $\operatorname{SU}(2)$
98 Views Asked by Bumbble Comm https://math.techqa.club/user/bumbble-comm/detail At
1
There are 1 best solutions below
Related Questions in CALCULUS
- Equality of Mixed Partial Derivatives - Simple proof is Confusing
- How can I prove that $\int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}}\frac{\ln(1+\cos(\alpha)\cos(x))}{\cos(x)}dx=\frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{\pi^2}{4}-\alpha^2\right)$?
- Proving the differentiability of the following function of two variables
- If $f ◦f$ is differentiable, then $f ◦f ◦f$ is differentiable
- Calculating the radius of convergence for $\sum _{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{\left(\sqrt{ n^2+n}-\sqrt{n^2+1}\right)^n}{n^2}z^n$
- Number of roots of the e
- What are the functions satisfying $f\left(2\sum_{i=0}^{\infty}\frac{a_i}{3^i}\right)=\sum_{i=0}^{\infty}\frac{a_i}{2^i}$
- Why the derivative of $T(\gamma(s))$ is $T$ if this composition is not a linear transformation?
- How to prove $\frac 10 \notin \mathbb R $
- Proving that: $||x|^{s/2}-|y|^{s/2}|\le 2|x-y|^{s/2}$
Related Questions in LINEAR-ALGEBRA
- An underdetermined system derived for rotated coordinate system
- How to prove the following equality with matrix norm?
- Alternate basis for a subspace of $\mathcal P_3(\mathbb R)$?
- Why the derivative of $T(\gamma(s))$ is $T$ if this composition is not a linear transformation?
- Why is necessary ask $F$ to be infinite in order to obtain: $ f(v)=0$ for all $ f\in V^* \implies v=0 $
- I don't understand this $\left(\left[T\right]^B_C\right)^{-1}=\left[T^{-1}\right]^C_B$
- Summation in subsets
- $C=AB-BA$. If $CA=AC$, then $C$ is not invertible.
- Basis of span in $R^4$
- Prove if A is regular skew symmetric, I+A is regular (with obstacles)
Related Questions in LIE-GROUPS
- Best book to study Lie group theory
- Holonomy bundle is a covering space
- homomorphism between unitary groups
- On uniparametric subgroups of a Lie group
- Is it true that if a Lie group act trivially on an open subset of a manifold the action of the group is trivial (on the whole manifold)?
- Find non-zero real numbers $a,b,c,d$ such that $a^2+c^2=b^2+d^2$ and $ab+cd=0$.
- $SU(2)$ adjoint and fundamental transformations
- A finite group G acts freely on a simply connected manifold M
- $SU(3)$ irreps decomposition in subgroup irreps
- Tensors transformations under $so(4)$
Related Questions in MATRIX-CALCULUS
- How to compute derivative with respect to a matrix?
- Definition of matrix valued smooth function
- Is it possible in this case to calculate the derivative with matrix notation?
- Monoid but not a group
- Can it be proved that non-symmetric matrix $A$ will always have real eigen values?.
- Gradient of transpose of a vector.
- Gradient of integral of vector norm
- Real eigenvalues of a non-symmetric matrix $A$ ?.
- How to differentiate sum of matrix multiplication?
- Derivative of $\log(\det(X+X^T)/2 )$ with respect to $X$
Related Questions in MONTE-CARLO
- Computing admissible integers for the Atanassov-Halton sequence
- Disturbing MATLAB Accuracy in Monte Carlo Simulation
- Choosing a random solution among infinite solutions of a linear system
- How to use Monte Carlo integration on a linear combination of f(x)?
- Monte Carlo Approximation of $\int_0^1\int_0^x x^2y dy dx$
- Give two algorithms for generating a random variable.
- When can the collapsed Gibbs sampling be applied?
- How to solve differential equations (ODE) using Monte Carlo methods?
- Random Numbers - the most common Value of $(x_1^2+y_1^2+...+x_N^2+y_N^2)/N$
- Numerical integration of triple integral
Trending Questions
- Induction on the number of equations
- How to convince a math teacher of this simple and obvious fact?
- Find $E[XY|Y+Z=1 ]$
- Refuting the Anti-Cantor Cranks
- What are imaginary numbers?
- Determine the adjoint of $\tilde Q(x)$ for $\tilde Q(x)u:=(Qu)(x)$ where $Q:U→L^2(Ω,ℝ^d$ is a Hilbert-Schmidt operator and $U$ is a Hilbert space
- Why does this innovative method of subtraction from a third grader always work?
- How do we know that the number $1$ is not equal to the number $-1$?
- What are the Implications of having VΩ as a model for a theory?
- Defining a Galois Field based on primitive element versus polynomial?
- Can't find the relationship between two columns of numbers. Please Help
- Is computer science a branch of mathematics?
- Is there a bijection of $\mathbb{R}^n$ with itself such that the forward map is connected but the inverse is not?
- Identification of a quadrilateral as a trapezoid, rectangle, or square
- Generator of inertia group in function field extension
Popular # Hahtags
second-order-logic
numerical-methods
puzzle
logic
probability
number-theory
winding-number
real-analysis
integration
calculus
complex-analysis
sequences-and-series
proof-writing
set-theory
functions
homotopy-theory
elementary-number-theory
ordinary-differential-equations
circles
derivatives
game-theory
definite-integrals
elementary-set-theory
limits
multivariable-calculus
geometry
algebraic-number-theory
proof-verification
partial-derivative
algebra-precalculus
Popular Questions
- What is the integral of 1/x?
- How many squares actually ARE in this picture? Is this a trick question with no right answer?
- Is a matrix multiplied with its transpose something special?
- What is the difference between independent and mutually exclusive events?
- Visually stunning math concepts which are easy to explain
- taylor series of $\ln(1+x)$?
- How to tell if a set of vectors spans a space?
- Calculus question taking derivative to find horizontal tangent line
- How to determine if a function is one-to-one?
- Determine if vectors are linearly independent
- What does it mean to have a determinant equal to zero?
- Is this Batman equation for real?
- How to find perpendicular vector to another vector?
- How to find mean and median from histogram
- How many sides does a circle have?
$ \def\R#1{{\mathbb R}^{#1}} \def\o{{\tt1}} \def\s{\sigma} \def\mbrace#1{\left\lbrace\begin{array}{r}#1\end{array}\right\rbrace} \def\m#1{\left[\begin{array}{r|r}#1\end{array}\right]} \def\LR#1{\left(#1\right)} \def\op#1{\operatorname{#1}} \def\trace#1{\op{Tr}\LR{#1}} \def\qiq{\quad\implies\quad} \def\qif{\quad\iff\quad} \def\frob#1{\left\| #1 \right\|_F} \def\p{\partial} \def\grad#1#2{\frac{\p #1}{\p #2}} $Let $c\in\R{4}$ be an arbitrary vector and construct the associated quaternion $$\eqalign{ c &= \mbrace{c_0\\c_1\\c_2\\c_3} \qiq C &= \m{c_0+ic_1 & c_2+ic_3\\\hline -c_2+ic_3 & c_0-ic_1} \\ }$$ which can also be written with respect to a basis consisting of Pauli matrices $\{\s_k\}$ $$\eqalign{ C &= s_0\,\s_0 + s_1\,\s_1 + s_2\,\s_2 + s_2\,\s_2 \\ s_0 &= c_0, \quad{\rm but}\quad s_k \ne c_k\;\:\{{\rm for}\;k=1,2,3\} \\ }$$ Normalizing the vector generates a unit quaternion, i.e. an $SU(2)$ matrix $$\eqalign{ &u = \frac{c}{\|c\|} = \mbrace{u_0\\u_1\\u_2\\u_3} \qiq U = \m{u_0+iu_1 & u_2+iu_3\\\hline-u_2+iu_3 & u_0-iu_1} \\ &U^\dagger U = I, \qquad \det(U) = (u_0^2+u_1^2)+(u_2^2+u_3^2) = \o \\ }$$ Let's use a colon to denote the matrix inner product $$\eqalign{ C:B &= \sum_{i=1}^m\sum_{j=1}^n C_{ij}B_{ij} \;=\; \trace{C^TB} \\ C:B &= B:C \qquad \{ {\rm \,commutes\,} \} \\ C^*:C &= \frob{C}^2 \qquad \{ {\rm \,Frobenius\;norm\,} \} \\ }$$ The vector and matrix representations of two arbitrary quaternions satisfy $$\eqalign{ C^*:B \;=\; 2\,c:b \;=\; 2\,b:c \;=\; B^*:C \\ }$$ and therefore $$\eqalign{ \frob{C} &= \sqrt{2}\:\frob{c} \qiq U = \frac{C}{\frob{c}} = \sqrt{2}\,\LR{\frac{C}{\frob{C}}} \\ \frob{U} &= \sqrt{2} \\ }$$ Using the quotient rule, the differential of the unit vector can be calculated as $$\eqalign{ du &= \LR{\frac{I-uu^T}{\|c\|}} dc \\ }$$ This means that the updated vector $\LR{u_+=u+du}$ remains a unit vector and therefore corresponds to an updated $SU(2)$ matrix.
Finally, if you define the quaternion $$B=M^\dagger \qiq B^*=M^T$$ then your first function can be dispatched as follows $$\eqalign{ \phi &= \trace{MU} \\ &= B^*:U \\ &= 2\,b:u \qquad \{ {\rm vector\;form} \} \\ \\ d\phi &= 2\,b : du \\ &= 2\,b : \LR{\frac{I-uu^T}{\|c\|}}dc \\ &= 2 \LR{\frac{I-uu^T}{\|c\|}}b : dc \\ \\ \grad{\phi}{c} &= 2 \LR{\frac{I-uu^T}{\|c\|}}b \\ }$$ This is the gradient of the function with respect to an unconstrained $\R{4}$ vector, which is not what you asked for but is what you need if you plan to do any sort of optimization.
Once the optimal vector is found, it is trivial to recover the corresponding $\,U\in SU(2)$
However, if you really, really want the gradient with respect to $U\,$ then here it is $$\eqalign{ \grad{\phi}{U} &= B^* \\ }$$ The problem with this gradient is that it accommodates movement in any direction, including those which destroy the unitarity of $U$.
But if you're careful to only choose directions which preserve unitarity (don't ask me how), then this gradient could be useful.