Let $S$ be a finite set of sets, with $N = \sum_{s \in S} |s|$ the 'total cardinality' of $S$; i.e., the sum of the cardinalities of all the sets in $S$. Now, consider the poset $(S, \subset)$ of $S$ partially ordered by the subset relation. I want to estimate the 'edge size' of this poset (that is, $|\subset|$, the number of pairs in the subset relation or the number of edges in the subset DAG) in terms of the total cardinality $N$. There is an obvious bound of $O(N^2)$ (since $|S|\leq N$ and $|\subset|\in O(|S|^2)$), but is it possible to do any better than this, possibly even to prove a linear $O(N)$ bound on $|\subset|$?
2026-04-02 02:31:46.1775097106
Estimating the number of edges in a subset-poset in terms of the total number of elements
87 Views Asked by Bumbble Comm https://math.techqa.club/user/bumbble-comm/detail At
1
There are 1 best solutions below
Related Questions in COMBINATORICS
- Using only the digits 2,3,9, how many six-digit numbers can be formed which are divisible by 6?
- The function $f(x)=$ ${b^mx^m}\over(1-bx)^{m+1}$ is a generating function of the sequence $\{a_n\}$. Find the coefficient of $x^n$
- Name of Theorem for Coloring of $\{1, \dots, n\}$
- Hard combinatorial identity: $\sum_{l=0}^p(-1)^l\binom{2l}{l}\binom{k}{p-l}\binom{2k+2l-2p}{k+l-p}^{-1}=4^p\binom{k-1}{p}\binom{2k}{k}^{-1}$
- Algebraic step including finite sum and binomial coefficient
- nth letter of lexicographically ordered substrings
- Count of possible money splits
- Covering vector space over finite field by subspaces
- A certain partition of 28
- Counting argument proof or inductive proof of $F_1 {n \choose1}+...+F_n {n \choose n} = F_{2n}$ where $F_i$ are Fibonacci
Related Questions in ESTIMATION
- Question on designing a state observer for discrete time system
- Some help with calculating the time remaining please???
- Is the usage of unbiased estimator appropriate?
- How to statistically estimate multiple linear coefficients?
- Is there an intuitive way to see that $\mathbb{E}[X|Y]$ is the least squares estimator of $X$ given $Y$?
- minimizing MSE of estimator $\theta(a,b) = \frac{1}{n} \sum^n_{i=1} Y_ia_i + b$
- a limit about exponential function
- I don't understand where does the $\frac{k-1}{k}$ factor come from, in the probability mass function derived by Bayesian approach.
- hints for calculation of double integral
- estimation of $\mu$ in a Gaussian with set confidence interval
Trending Questions
- Induction on the number of equations
- How to convince a math teacher of this simple and obvious fact?
- Find $E[XY|Y+Z=1 ]$
- Refuting the Anti-Cantor Cranks
- What are imaginary numbers?
- Determine the adjoint of $\tilde Q(x)$ for $\tilde Q(x)u:=(Qu)(x)$ where $Q:U→L^2(Ω,ℝ^d$ is a Hilbert-Schmidt operator and $U$ is a Hilbert space
- Why does this innovative method of subtraction from a third grader always work?
- How do we know that the number $1$ is not equal to the number $-1$?
- What are the Implications of having VΩ as a model for a theory?
- Defining a Galois Field based on primitive element versus polynomial?
- Can't find the relationship between two columns of numbers. Please Help
- Is computer science a branch of mathematics?
- Is there a bijection of $\mathbb{R}^n$ with itself such that the forward map is connected but the inverse is not?
- Identification of a quadrilateral as a trapezoid, rectangle, or square
- Generator of inertia group in function field extension
Popular # Hahtags
second-order-logic
numerical-methods
puzzle
logic
probability
number-theory
winding-number
real-analysis
integration
calculus
complex-analysis
sequences-and-series
proof-writing
set-theory
functions
homotopy-theory
elementary-number-theory
ordinary-differential-equations
circles
derivatives
game-theory
definite-integrals
elementary-set-theory
limits
multivariable-calculus
geometry
algebraic-number-theory
proof-verification
partial-derivative
algebra-precalculus
Popular Questions
- What is the integral of 1/x?
- How many squares actually ARE in this picture? Is this a trick question with no right answer?
- Is a matrix multiplied with its transpose something special?
- What is the difference between independent and mutually exclusive events?
- Visually stunning math concepts which are easy to explain
- taylor series of $\ln(1+x)$?
- How to tell if a set of vectors spans a space?
- Calculus question taking derivative to find horizontal tangent line
- How to determine if a function is one-to-one?
- Determine if vectors are linearly independent
- What does it mean to have a determinant equal to zero?
- Is this Batman equation for real?
- How to find perpendicular vector to another vector?
- How to find mean and median from histogram
- How many sides does a circle have?
The answer can be $\Omega(N^{2-\epsilon})$ for any epsilon.Consider the 'universe' $U=\{1, 2, \ldots, n\}$, fix some number $k$, and let $S$ be all the subsets $U$ of size either $k$ or $n-k$. Then there are $n\choose k$ sets in $S$ of size $k$ and ${n\choose n-k }={n\choose k}$ sets of size $n-k$, so $N=\sum_{s\in S}|s| = n\cdot {n\choose k}\approx C_0n^{k+1}$ for some constant $C_0$ (dependent on $k$ but not $n$). Meanwhile, for each of the sets of size $n-k$ it has ${n-k\choose k}$ subsets of size $k$, so $|\subset| = {n\choose k}\cdot {n-k\choose k}\approx C_1(n-k)^k\cdot n^k\approx C_2 n^{2k}$ (again, with constants dependent on $k$ but not $n$). This, in turn, is proportional to $\left(n^{k+1}\right)^{2k/(k+1)} = N^{2k/(k+1)} = N^{2-2/(k+1)}$, and so by choosing $k$ large enough (and then $n$ much larger, of course) we can best any $N^{2-\epsilon}$.
By letting $k$ vary as a function of $n$, say $k\in\Theta(\log n)$, this can probably go all the way to $\Omega(N^2\log^{-p}N)$ for some $p$, but I'm not sure what the best $p$ you could get from this approach is, or whether it can in fact be taken all the way to $\Theta(N^2)$.