Recently I've seen a few examples of an 'equivalence class' subgroup of a product of two groups: given $G$ and $H$ with homomorphisms $\gamma: G\mapsto K$ and $\eta: H\mapsto K$, one can form a group $(G\times H)/K$ as the subgroup of $G\times H$ consisting of those elements $\langle g,h \rangle$ with $\gamma(g)=\eta(h)$. It's easy to see that the order of the group is $\dfrac{|G|\cdot|H|}{|K|}$ so the notation makes sense (at least to me). Another way to think about this is as the coequalizer of $G\times H$ by the compositions of the two projection maps with the corresponding homomorphisms as maps from $G\times H\mapsto K$. This comes up most notably (for me) in the classification of finite subgroups of $SO(4)$ where groups like $\frac12(S_4\times S_4)$ show up (the homomorphisms in this case being the usual parity homomorphism onto $C_2$), but I've seen the same construction or versions of it in a few places; it shows up in analyzing puzzles, for instance. This seems like such a natural notion that I'm surprised I haven't seen it covered more frequently; are there any references that anyone might be able to point me to?
2026-03-29 05:50:07.1774763407
Has this 'group product equivalence quotient' construction been substantially studied?
44 Views Asked by Bumbble Comm https://math.techqa.club/user/bumbble-comm/detail At
1
There are 1 best solutions below
Related Questions in GROUP-THEORY
- What is the intersection of the vertices of a face of a simplicial complex?
- Group with order $pq$ has subgroups of order $p$ and $q$
- How to construct a group whose "size" grows between polynomially and exponentially.
- Conjugacy class formula
- $G$ abelian when $Z(G)$ is a proper subset of $G$?
- A group of order 189 is not simple
- Minimal dimension needed for linearization of group action
- For a $G$ a finite subgroup of $\mathbb{GL}_2(\mathbb{R})$ of rank $3$, show that $f^2 = \textrm{Id}$ for all $f \in G$
- subgroups that contain a normal subgroup is also normal
- Could anyone give an **example** that a problem that can be solved by creating a new group?
Related Questions in REFERENCE-REQUEST
- Best book to study Lie group theory
- Alternative definition for characteristic foliation of a surface
- Transition from theory of PDEs to applied analysis and industrial problems and models with PDEs
- Random variables in integrals, how to analyze?
- Abstract Algebra Preparation
- Definition of matrix valued smooth function
- CLT for Martingales
- Almost locality of cubic spline interpolation
- Identify sequences from OEIS or the literature, or find examples of odd integers $n\geq 1$ satisfying these equations related to odd perfect numbers
- property of Lebesgue measure involving small intervals
Related Questions in DIRECT-PRODUCT
- Krull dimension of a direct product of rings
- Is the map $G*H \to G \times H$ injective?
- Is free product of groups always bigger that direct product?
- In GAP, How can I check whether a given group is a direct product?
- $V^*$ is isomorphic to the direct product of copies of $F$ indexed by $A$
- Prove that $\mathbb{Z}_{5}[x]/(x^2+1)$ is isomorphic to $\mathbb{Z}_{5} \times \mathbb{Z}_{5}$.
- Subdirect products
- If $(g,h)\in G\times H$ with $|g|=r$ and $|h|=s$, then $|(g,h)|=\operatorname{lcm}(r,s)$.
- Using Direct Proofs in Discrete Math
- Symmetric Direct Product Distributive?
Trending Questions
- Induction on the number of equations
- How to convince a math teacher of this simple and obvious fact?
- Find $E[XY|Y+Z=1 ]$
- Refuting the Anti-Cantor Cranks
- What are imaginary numbers?
- Determine the adjoint of $\tilde Q(x)$ for $\tilde Q(x)u:=(Qu)(x)$ where $Q:U→L^2(Ω,ℝ^d$ is a Hilbert-Schmidt operator and $U$ is a Hilbert space
- Why does this innovative method of subtraction from a third grader always work?
- How do we know that the number $1$ is not equal to the number $-1$?
- What are the Implications of having VΩ as a model for a theory?
- Defining a Galois Field based on primitive element versus polynomial?
- Can't find the relationship between two columns of numbers. Please Help
- Is computer science a branch of mathematics?
- Is there a bijection of $\mathbb{R}^n$ with itself such that the forward map is connected but the inverse is not?
- Identification of a quadrilateral as a trapezoid, rectangle, or square
- Generator of inertia group in function field extension
Popular # Hahtags
second-order-logic
numerical-methods
puzzle
logic
probability
number-theory
winding-number
real-analysis
integration
calculus
complex-analysis
sequences-and-series
proof-writing
set-theory
functions
homotopy-theory
elementary-number-theory
ordinary-differential-equations
circles
derivatives
game-theory
definite-integrals
elementary-set-theory
limits
multivariable-calculus
geometry
algebraic-number-theory
proof-verification
partial-derivative
algebra-precalculus
Popular Questions
- What is the integral of 1/x?
- How many squares actually ARE in this picture? Is this a trick question with no right answer?
- Is a matrix multiplied with its transpose something special?
- What is the difference between independent and mutually exclusive events?
- Visually stunning math concepts which are easy to explain
- taylor series of $\ln(1+x)$?
- How to tell if a set of vectors spans a space?
- Calculus question taking derivative to find horizontal tangent line
- How to determine if a function is one-to-one?
- Determine if vectors are linearly independent
- What does it mean to have a determinant equal to zero?
- Is this Batman equation for real?
- How to find perpendicular vector to another vector?
- How to find mean and median from histogram
- How many sides does a circle have?
As mentioned in the comments, this is the pullback / fiber product $G \times_K H$. It appears in group theory in the context of Goursat's lemma classifying subgroups of $G \times H$. It is quite misleading, in my opinion, to refer to this construction using quotient terminology or notation, because it is not in any way a quotient: it is a (categorical) limit, and quotients are colimits.