I need help in interpreting rigorously the following derivation from Jackson's Electrodynamics textbook: In particular I'm having trouble rigorously defining $\delta W$. I tried to interpret $W$ as a functional with $\rho$ as its argument but then I couldn't make sense as to how we integrate with respect to that variation (I'm familiar with taking variational derivatives not integrating with respect to variations (whatever that means)).
2026-04-12 19:00:36.1776020436
Help in rigorously defining Integration with respect to a functional variation
70 Views Asked by Bumbble Comm https://math.techqa.club/user/bumbble-comm/detail At
1
There are 1 best solutions below
Related Questions in INTEGRATION
- How can I prove that $\int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}}\frac{\ln(1+\cos(\alpha)\cos(x))}{\cos(x)}dx=\frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{\pi^2}{4}-\alpha^2\right)$?
- How to integrate $\int_{0}^{t}{\frac{\cos u}{\cosh^2 u}du}$?
- Show that $x\longmapsto \int_{\mathbb R^n}\frac{f(y)}{|x-y|^{n-\alpha }}dy$ is integrable.
- How to find the unit tangent vector of a curve in R^3
- multiplying the integrands in an inequality of integrals with same limits
- Closed form of integration
- Proving smoothness for a sequence of functions.
- Random variables in integrals, how to analyze?
- derive the expectation of exponential function $e^{-\left\Vert \mathbf{x} - V\mathbf{x}+\mathbf{a}\right\Vert^2}$ or its upper bound
- Which type of Riemann Sum is the most accurate?
Related Questions in FUNCTIONAL-ANALYSIS
- On sufficient condition for pre-compactness "in measure"(i.e. in Young measure space)
- Why is necessary ask $F$ to be infinite in order to obtain: $ f(v)=0$ for all $ f\in V^* \implies v=0 $
- Prove or disprove the following inequality
- Unbounded linear operator, projection from graph not open
- $\| (I-T)^{-1}|_{\ker(I-T)^\perp} \| \geq 1$ for all compact operator $T$ in an infinite dimensional Hilbert space
- Elementary question on continuity and locally square integrability of a function
- Bijection between $\Delta(A)$ and $\mathrm{Max}(A)$
- Exercise 1.105 of Megginson's "An Introduction to Banach Space Theory"
- Reference request for a lemma on the expected value of Hermitian polynomials of Gaussian random variables.
- If $A$ generates the $C_0$-semigroup $\{T_t;t\ge0\}$, then $Au=f \Rightarrow u=-\int_0^\infty T_t f dt$?
Related Questions in CALCULUS-OF-VARIATIONS
- On sufficient condition for pre-compactness "in measure"(i.e. in Young measure space)
- Weak formulation of Robin boundary condition problem
- Why is the index of a harmonic map finite?
- Variational Formulation - inhomogeneous Neumann boundary
- Relationship between Training Neural Networks and Calculus of Variations
- How to prove a Minimal Surface minimizes Surface Tension
- Derive the Euler–Lagrange equation for a functional a single variable with higher derivatives.
- Does the covariant derivative commute with the variational derivative?
- Derivative of a functional w.r.t. a single point?
- calculus of variations with double integral textbook?
Trending Questions
- Induction on the number of equations
- How to convince a math teacher of this simple and obvious fact?
- Find $E[XY|Y+Z=1 ]$
- Refuting the Anti-Cantor Cranks
- What are imaginary numbers?
- Determine the adjoint of $\tilde Q(x)$ for $\tilde Q(x)u:=(Qu)(x)$ where $Q:U→L^2(Ω,ℝ^d$ is a Hilbert-Schmidt operator and $U$ is a Hilbert space
- Why does this innovative method of subtraction from a third grader always work?
- How do we know that the number $1$ is not equal to the number $-1$?
- What are the Implications of having VΩ as a model for a theory?
- Defining a Galois Field based on primitive element versus polynomial?
- Can't find the relationship between two columns of numbers. Please Help
- Is computer science a branch of mathematics?
- Is there a bijection of $\mathbb{R}^n$ with itself such that the forward map is connected but the inverse is not?
- Identification of a quadrilateral as a trapezoid, rectangle, or square
- Generator of inertia group in function field extension
Popular # Hahtags
second-order-logic
numerical-methods
puzzle
logic
probability
number-theory
winding-number
real-analysis
integration
calculus
complex-analysis
sequences-and-series
proof-writing
set-theory
functions
homotopy-theory
elementary-number-theory
ordinary-differential-equations
circles
derivatives
game-theory
definite-integrals
elementary-set-theory
limits
multivariable-calculus
geometry
algebraic-number-theory
proof-verification
partial-derivative
algebra-precalculus
Popular Questions
- What is the integral of 1/x?
- How many squares actually ARE in this picture? Is this a trick question with no right answer?
- Is a matrix multiplied with its transpose something special?
- What is the difference between independent and mutually exclusive events?
- Visually stunning math concepts which are easy to explain
- taylor series of $\ln(1+x)$?
- How to tell if a set of vectors spans a space?
- Calculus question taking derivative to find horizontal tangent line
- How to determine if a function is one-to-one?
- Determine if vectors are linearly independent
- What does it mean to have a determinant equal to zero?
- Is this Batman equation for real?
- How to find perpendicular vector to another vector?
- How to find mean and median from histogram
- How many sides does a circle have?

Yes, what he writes is a sloppy notation for the Frechet differential of a (typically nonlinear) functional $W$ defined on a vector space $V$. (The latter is a vector space of functions with some degree of smoothness and decay at inifnity and equipped with a suitable norm: In principle, one can do it all without norms, but then you have to introduce a formalism of topological vector spaces. Physicists usually do not worry about such details.) Now, let $\rho$ is a point in $V$ and $F: V\times V\to {\mathbb R}$ is a functional on $V$ (linear in the second variable). When you see a formula $$ \delta W = F(\rho, \delta \rho), $$ this means that the Frechet derivative of $W$ at $\rho$ in the direction of a vector $\delta\rho\in V$ equals $F(\rho, \delta \rho)$. (Implicitly, it is assumed or, at least, hoped, that the functional $F$ is differentiable at $\rho$.)
As for a justification of his computation: For such a computation to work, a mathematician would impose further assumptions on functions, such as compact support or fast decay at infinity, and make sure that the norm (topology) is chosen correctly, otherwise one has trouble interchanging limits (derivatives) and integration. Most physicists do not care about any of these and assume that formal computations will actually work.