Hrbacek Paradox

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Would it be possible to give a high level explanation of what is going on to give Hrbacek's Paradox (and why it is called a Paradox)?

"No infinite internal set X can be well ordered nor does it have a power set. Moreover, there is no set P containing all sets Y $\subset$ X of standard size?

(Internally presumably the power set and well orderings exist, so this looks like something is going on in the external Metatheory?).

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The following is a bit informal, but I think explains what's going on decently well. Basically, Hrbacek's "paradox" is just overspill phrased in a complicated way (see the end of this answer for some discussion of this).


Let $T$ be an "appropriate" theory of nonstandard analysis. Working in $T$, we have an "internal universe" $\mathbb{I}$ and a "standard universe" $\mathbb{S}$. The first observation to make is that each of these construed on its own is a model of ZFC, and in particular AC and Powerset.

Nonetheless, Hrbacek's paradox says that in some sense both AC and Powerset "break" in $\mathbb{I}$. So, what gives?

The key is:

We have to distinguish between what $\mathbb{I}$ "thinks" and what is actually true.

Let's look at Powerset. If $X\in\mathbb{I}$ then there is some $Y\in\mathbb{I}$ which $\mathbb{I}\models$ "$Y$ is the powerset of $X$." This $Y$ consists exactly of the subsets of $X$ which are in $\mathbb{I}$. But those aren't all the subsets there are! For example, take $X={}^*\mathbb{N}$. Then $\mathbb{N}\subseteq{}^*\mathbb{N}$ but $\mathbb{N}\not\in \mathbb{I}$ (this is just overspill). Indeed, this can't be avoided: if $X\in\mathbb{I}$ then either $X$ is (truly) finite or there are subsets of $X$ not in $\mathbb{I}$.

The same thing happens re: AC. If $\trianglelefteq$ is a linear ordering of some (truly) infinite $X\in\mathbb{I}$ then there is some $Y\subseteq X$ with no $\trianglelefteq$-least element, but we don't necessarily have such a $Y$ in $\mathbb{I}$: just because $\mathbb{I}$ thinks something is a well-ordering doesn't mean that it is, and in fact - as with Powerset - $\mathbb{I}$ will never correctly think that something is a well-ordering (excepting the trivial case where it's finite).

So that's Hrbacek's "paradox" (I personally think that's a bit strong language). Basically, $\mathbb{I}$ doesn't just have "extra" stuff, it also has "missing" stuff - if it didn't, other things we want would break - and this means that $\mathbb{I}$ satisfies some of the ZFC "in the wrong way."


Actually, though, I think this whole language is complicating things unnecessarily. Really, we're making a basic observation about nonstandard models of set theory, which I think is clearer since it has less "ontological baggage."

Suppose $M$ is a non-$\omega$-model of ZFC. Then:

$1.$ If $X\in M$ is (truly) infinite, there is some $Y\subseteq X$ which is not in $M$.

$2.$ If $X\in M$ is (truly) infinite, there is no (true) well-ordering of $X$ in $M$.

  • Admittedly, there's a minor abuse of terminology here: I'm treating elements of $M$ and actual sets as things of the same type. To be more precise, I need to talk about "set-ifying" elements of $M$: externally, for $a\in M$ we define $$Set(a)=\{b\in M: M\models b\in a\}.$$ Then for example the first bulletpoint above would be more precisely phrased as "Suppose $a\in M$. Then there is some $Y\subseteq Set(a)$ such that for all $b\in M$ we have $Set(b)\not=Y$," and similarly with the second bulletpoint.

Even more generally, we have:

Suppose $M$ is an ill-founded model of ZFC and let $X\in M$. If the $M$-cardinality of $X$ is (externally) ill-founded, then there is some $Y\subseteq X$ such that $Y\not\in M$, and there is no (genuine) well-ordering of $X$ in $M$.