It's well known it's impossible to solve the Russel paradox using only the axioms of the Cantor set theory. The Quine's New foundation $(NF)$ is able to prevent this paradox and others like for example, the Burali - Forti. Are there paradoxes impossible to solve inside the axioms of $NF$ that are solved inside $NFU$? Thanks.
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Quine's NF and paradoxes
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All the "classical" paradoxes with naive set theory fail to go through in NF; however, the consistency of NF even relative to ZFC is open (well, Holmes has a claimed consistency proof but I don't think it's been vetted yet).
Interestingly, it is known that NFU and its various familiar extensions are consistent, relative to very weak theories:
NFU itself is relatively consistent with PA.
NFU + Infinity + Choice is relatively consistent with a particular weak set theory called "MacLane set theory."
Moreover these consistency proofs are not very hard. So there's an interesting jump in strength going from NFU to NF.
Another manifestation of this jump in strength is the remarkable fact that NF disproves the axiom of choice while choice is consistent with ZFU! There doesn't seem to be a snappy reason for this; Specker's proof is quite complicated (although see here for an outline of the proof). The disproof of choice obviously isn't a paradox in the sense of a proof of inconsistency, but it is a very odd result, especially given that a rejection of choice isn't implicit in the motivation for NF.
This is the closest thing to a paradox which is impossible to solve inside the axioms of NF that is solved inside NFU; it's not really a "paradox" in the modern sense, but it is a proof of an arguably highly counterintuitive result (the negation of choice). And this argument dies a horrible death if we try to run it in NFU.
So I would say the following: