The orthogonal behaviour of a subset of vector spaces

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Notations.

Let $n\ge 4$ be an integer, $d,e\in\{1,\ldots,n-1\}$ and $j\in\{1,\ldots,\min(d,e)\}$.

We say that a subspace of $\mathbb R^n$ is rational if it admits a rational basis. We denote by $\mathfrak R_n(e)$ the set of rational subspaces of dimension $e$.

We denote by $\mathfrak I_n(d,e)_j$ the set of subspaces $A$ of $\mathbb R^n$ of dimension $d$ such that

$$\forall B\in\mathfrak R_n(e),\quad \dim(A\cap B)<j.$$

The question.

We want to show that if $d+e\leqslant n$ and $j\in\{1,\ldots,\min(d,e)\}$, then

$$A\in\mathfrak I_n(d,e)_j\implies A^\perp\in\mathfrak I_n(n-d,n-e)_j.$$

What I did.

I don't know if this result is true, but I can't find a counterexample.

If we assume that there exists $B\in\mathfrak R_n(n-e)$ such that $\dim(A^\perp\cap B)\geqslant j$, then there exists $C$ a subspace of $\mathbb R^n$ of dimension $k\geqslant j$ such that

$$A^\perp\cap B=C,$$

then

$$(A^\perp\cap B)^\perp=C^\perp$$

so

$$A+B^\perp=C^\perp,$$

so

$$d+e\leqslant n-j$$

but it does not help that much...


Any help or reference to prove or disprove the result would be of great help!