A quotation of George Dantzig

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In a Chinese book, it is alleged that George Bernard Dantzig said something along the following lines.

It was almost impossible for someone who had never been exposed to applied problems and had only a pure mathematical background to know how to express a real world problem in mathematical terms, and it was even more difficult to solve a real world problem

Was this sentence really said by Dantzig? If so, in which book or paper does it appear?

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The following appears in an interview with Dantzig in More Mathematical People: Contemporary Conversations (1990), edited by Donald J. Albers, Gerald L. Alexanderson, and Constance Reid:

It is almost impossible for someone coming from a purely mathematical background with little exposure to applications to understand how to go about formulating a real-world problem in mathematical terms.

The same interview was published in The College Mathematics Journal Vol. 17, No. 4 (Sep., 1986), pp. 292-314 https://www.jstor.org/stable/2686279