Analysis, supB < supA proof question.

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Let $A$ and $B$ be two non-empty bounded above subsets of $\mathbb{R}$ such that $\text{sup}B < \text{sup}A$. (1)

(a) Prove that there exists a real number $a$ such that $a \in A$ and $a$ is an upper bound of $B$.

(b) Is the result still true if we replace hypothesis (1) with the weaker hypothesis $\text{sup}B \leq \text{sup}A$?

(a) So I know that, you need the approximation property for suprema to show that there is an element in $A$ which is greater than $\text{sup}B$ but less than $\text{sup}A$. But I am unsure how to apply this and therefore hence prove the first statement.

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Just follow the definitions.

$\sup A$ is the least upper bound of $A$. What does that mean? What is the definition.

Def: 1) $\sup A$ is an upper bound of $A$. And if $y < \sup A$ then $y$ is not an upper bound of $A$.

Well, $\sup B < \sup A$ so $\sup B$ is not an upper bound of $A$.

Well what does that mean?

If $y$ is an upper bound of $A$ means $y \ge a$ for all $a \in A$. SO if $y$ is not an upper bound of $A$ that means that there is an $a \in A$ so that $y < a$.

So $\sup B$ is not an upper bound of $A$ so there is an $a \in A$ so that $\sup B < a$.

Now what can we say about $a$ in terms of the elements of $B$?

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As for b)

If $\sup B = \sup A$ and $a\in A$ is an upper bound of $B$ that would mean $a \ge \sup B$ because $B$ is the least upper bound.

But $a \in A$ so $a \le \sup A$ because $\sup A$ is an upper bound of $a$.

So we have $\sup B \le a \le \sup A = \sup B$ so $a =\sup B = \sup A$.

Does that have to happen? Is $\sup A \in A$ always?