Calculating approximate value for some variable much bigger than another variable

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Often in physics problems, we derive some kind of function f(x) for some physical quantity and we try to find the approximate value of the function as some variable gets too big, or close to zero.

To do this formally, I take the limit of the function as normal. But what is the formal way to approximate the function at x much bigger than another variable? I mostly see it stated as $x>>y$. A simple example would be $|E(z)|=\dfrac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0} 2\pi\sigma (1 - \dfrac{z}{\sqrt{z^2+R^2}})$ for the electrical field of a uniformly charged circular disk, with radius $R$, at distance $z$ from the center of the disk.

For $z \to 0$, the second term is equal to $0$.

For $z \to \infty$, $\lim_{z \to \infty}\dfrac{z}{\sqrt{z^2+R^2}} = \lim_{z \to \infty}\dfrac{z}{z\sqrt{1+(\dfrac{R}{Z})^2}} = \lim_{z \to \infty}\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{1+(\dfrac{R}{z})^2}} = 1$

But how do I go about formally calculating the second term for $z >> R$ and $z << R$? Do I have to express the function as $E(u)=E(z-R)$ and then take the limit as $u \to \infty$? In most cases, building up the $z >> R$ expression works fine without much trouble but is there a specific methodology I could follow?

My textbook provides the solution as follows: Problem Solution R >> Z Solution z >> R

which feels kind of random to me.

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The problem here is that there isn't just one approximation that will work. Even though one likes to say things like "when $x$ is large, then $f(x) \approx g(x)$ (for some 'simpler' $g$)", that does not imply that the $g$ is unique. After all, it still is an approximation even "when $x$ is large", and that means we can think of better ones, which will necessarily have a different form.

I would venture to say this is more "art" than analytical. That said, we can try to put some theory to it. Consider the $x \rightarrow \infty$ case for simplicity. Let $f_j$ be an infinite sequence of functions such that we can form a very general infinite series

$$f(x) = f_1(x) + f_2(x) + f_3(x) + \cdots$$

where this equality is exact, for at least $x$ greater than some minimum value $x_0$. Suppose each function "grows slower" than the last in that $f_{j+1}(x) \in o(f_j(x))$. Then if we truncate the series after some number of terms, the error, represented by the terms remaining that we removed, will die off as $x$ grows.

However, there is virtually unlimited freedom in the form the $f_j$ may take. For example, we could just take $f_1 = f$, then for all other $j$, $f_j = x \mapsto 0$. In that case, the above property will hold, except it is not particularly useful: we can "approximate" $f$ to any order we like by $f$ itself. And that's where the "art" comes in: it lies is in choosing the most convenient sequence of "terms" $f_j$ to express $f$ as so we can then truncate it.

And one common, but not always applicable, way to do that is to use a Taylor or Laurent series expansion to generate a suitable sequence of $f_j$. In your problem, we express

$$z \mapsto \frac{1}{\sqrt{z^2 + R^2}}$$

by noting

$$\frac{1}{\sqrt{z^2 + R^2}} = \frac{1}{z} \left(1 + \frac{R^2}{z^2}\right)^{-1/2}$$

and then we can use the binomial series

$$(1 + z)^r = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \binom{r}{n} z^n$$

to get a Laurent series

$$\left(1 + \frac{R^2}{z^2}\right)^{-1/2} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \binom{-1/2}{n} \frac{R^{2n}}{z^{2n}}$$

hence, multiplying by $\frac{1}{z}$,

$$\frac{1}{\sqrt{z^2 + R^2}} = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \binom{-1/2}{n} \frac{R^{2n}}{z^{2n + 1}} = \frac{1}{z} - \frac{1}{2} \frac{R^2}{z^3} + \frac{3}{8} \frac{R^4}{z^5} - \frac{5}{16} \frac{R^6}{z^7} + \cdots$$

we have

$$f_1(z) = \frac{1}{z}$$ $$f_2(z) = -\frac{1}{2} \frac{R^2}{z^3}$$ $$f_3(z) = \frac{3}{8} \frac{R^4}{z^5}$$ $$f_4(z) = -\frac{5}{16} \frac{R^6}{z^7}$$ $$\cdots$$

and you can show that, using the definition of $o$, $\frac{1}{z^3} \in o\left(\frac{1}{z}\right)$, $\frac{1}{z^5} \in o\left(\frac{1}{z^3}\right)$, etc. Hence we have a sequence that meets the theory's prescriptions. Truncating to 2 terms then gives you the result in the textbook.

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We have by binomial series as $x \to 0$

$$(1+x)^a\sim 1+ax$$

therefore for $z>>R \implies \frac R z <<1$ with $x=\frac R z$ and $a=-\frac12$ we obtain

$$\frac1{\sqrt{z^2+R^2}}=\frac1z\left({1+\left(\frac R z\right)^2}\right)^{-\frac12}\sim \frac1z\left(1-\frac12\left(\frac R z\right)^2\right)$$

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I understand your confusion. The first time I saw such a solution I also thought of such solution as arbitrary. There is no right or wrong in these approximations it depends on the level of detail that you want to look at such processes.

The general idea in physics is. Try to approximate the given expression. If the result is not trivial (like 0) and simple you are done. If you are asked to consider higher order terms you expand the problematic piece with the according order.

Now what expressions need to be approximated? Ofen we approximate “complicated” functions (roots, 1/f(x), exponential, sine, cosine,...). We seek polynomial or ideally linear expressions.

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While it can sometimes mean difference, it usually means ratio. So $z>>R$ means $\lim_{\frac Rz\rightarrow 0}$. While you could take it as $\lim_{\frac zR\rightarrow \infty}$, that taking the limit as something goes to infinity tends to be more complicated than a limit to a finite value, and often is rewritten as the limit as its reciprocal goes to zero.

Similarly, $R>>z$ means $\lim_{\frac zR\rightarrow 0}$.