Finding the perpendicular distance from a force to a point

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Find the moment of each force about the point, P, stating whether it is clockwise or anticlockwise.

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I think it's straightforward but I'm not seeing it. How would I find these perpendicular distances? I think that for the first one, it would be $8 sin(30)$ but I can't visually make sense of it.

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Here I am taking force vector in two directions one is perpendicular to the point P and other is passing through point P.

For the first one, you can write it as $$20*sin(30)*8$$

For the second one, you can write it as $$20*sin(40)*5$$