I believe - am pretty much certain - that $\int_a^b \frac1{\lfloor x\rfloor} dx$ will be irrational if $b - a$ is irrational, due to the discrete nature of the floor function's and its reciprocal's rectangles. However, I do not know how this theory would be expressed proof-wise. I've been trying some funky stuff with moduli, but I still struggling expressing my observation, and I don't even know if modular arithmetic is the way to go. Any ideas?
2026-03-31 17:54:21.1774979661
Proving that $\int_a^b\frac1{\lfloor x\rfloor}\;\mathrm{d}x$ is irrational, given $b - a$ is irrational
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...(assuming we don't have to worry about $0$ ... i.e. assuming $0 < a < b$ or equivalent) ...
Well
$\int_a^b \frac 1{\lfloor x \rfloor}dx =$
$\int_a^{\lceil a\rceil}\frac 1{\lceil a\rceil-1}dx + \sum_{n=\lceil a\rceil}^{\lfloor b\rfloor -1}\int_n^{n+1}\frac 1ndx + \int_{\lfloor b\rfloor }^b\frac 1{\lfloor b\rfloor }dx=$
$(\lceil a\rceil - a)\frac 1{\lceil a\rceil-1} + \sum_{n=\lceil a\rceil}^{\lfloor b\rfloor -1}\frac 1n+ (b- \lfloor b\rfloor)\frac 1{\lfloor b\rfloor}=$
$\{\frac b{\lfloor b\rfloor} - \frac a{{\lceil a\rceil}-1}\}+\{\sum_{n=\lceil a\rceil}^{\lfloor b\rfloor -1}\frac 1n +\frac {\lceil a\rceil}{\lceil a\rceil-1}- 1\}$ will be rational if and only if
$\{\frac b{\lfloor b\rfloor} - \frac a{{\lceil a\rceil}-1}\}$ is.
and from there it's probably not to difficult to come up with a counter example. The only really requirement is that (as $\lfloor b\rfloor$ and $\lceil a \rceil - 1$ are both integers) is that $a$ and $b$ be in a rational proportion to each other (yet themselves irrational).
My attempt: