how can I calculate trace of Frobenius for a single point on an elliptic curve $E(F_{q^{12}})$? I've tried to sum up 12 points that were different powers Frobenius maps but none of the points don't map to $F_q$ as it should be (correct me if I wrong). this is a snapshot below from which I got a formula to calculate the trace of frobenius. Formula to compute the trace of Frobenius from "Assymetric Pairings" by Alfred Menezes
2026-03-28 02:48:54.1774666134
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I took a glance to the paper / rather to the slides in ECC2009, Menzes, pure curiosity, and decided to start an answer. The question is not fully clear to me now, i will give an answer by example that explicitly computes the trace of Frobenius for a point for some explicit curve. Sage will be used.
First, we have to set up a detailed framework instead of the slide pages 10, 11, 12 in loc. cit., best by example.
Let us find first a pair $n,p$, $n=f(z)$, $p=g(z)$ for the polynomials specified in the slides. Sage code for the search among some small numbers:
For our purposes the case $n=97$, $p=103$ should be fine. (It is not the simplest one, $13,19$. Just a choice.)
Then indeed, the minimal $k$ such that $n$ divides $p^k-1$ is $12$,
We need now an explicit $b$, such that the curve $E=E_b$ defined over $F=\Bbb F_p$, $$E=E_b\ :\ Y^2 = X^3+b $$ has order (of the group of $F$-rational points$) $n=|E(F)|$. Let us search for the $b$.
My choice is then the
5. So we work with $$ E\ :\ Y^2 = X^3 + 5\text{ over }F =\Bbb F_{103}\ ,\ |E(F)|=n=97\ . $$ The paper claims that all points in $E[n](\bar F)$ live over $F':=\Bbb F_p^{12}$, let us check:and the total check:
and the factor $97^2$ shows we have a full $E[n]$ over $F':=\Bbb F_p^{12}$.
Now the slides are introducing the Tate pairing, $$ \hat e:E[n]\times E[n]\to \underbrace{(\Bbb F_{p^{12}})^\times[n]}_{:=\Bbb G_T}\ , $$ where i suppose that the index $T$ stays for Tate. Since $(\Bbb F_{p^{12}})^\times$ is cyclic of order $p^{12}-1$, and $n$ divides simply this number, we expect $n=97$ such values. We can compute them explicitly.
Now things get precipitated. We have a beautiful pair, we pair two equally footed points $P,Q\in E[n]$, and get a scalar $\hat e(P,Q)$, but the paper needs for the applications an asymmetrical setting, so inside of $E[n]\times E[n]$ we single out a subgroup with bolded notation, $\Bbb G_1\times \Bbb G_2$. Here,
So let it be this trace zero subgroup in the sequel.
To have a clear situation, let us compute $E(F')[n]$ and this trace zero subgroup $\Bbb G_2$ inside it. Since the answer to the stated question starts here, we also make a tabula rasa and type the code from the scratch.
We have now the $n^2=9409$ in the hand. For each point $P$ in the list we compute $$ \operatorname{Tr}(P) := P+\pi P+\pi^2 P+\dots +\pi^{11}P\ . $$ In case the result is zero, the zero in $E(F')$, we put it in a separate list.
So we obtain indeed $97$ points.
Note that the points are not defined over $\Bbb F_p$. For instance:
and here is the full list of the minimal polynomials for the $x$-component of points in $\Bbb G_2$:
This answers by example the present question. However... this is the begin of the story, in the slides there is mentioned without any (not even a vague) hint the existence of a monomorphism from some twist of $E$, which maps the $\Bbb F_p$-rational points of the twist to $\Bbb G_2$.
(If some reference to this is provided, i will fill in the code to compute this.)
For bigger values of $p,n$, the above code may not finish in time. However, for this situation the code and the constructed examples can be extended and analyzed to get deeper into the structure.