As we know, the Ky Fan norm is convex, and so is the Ky Fan k-norm. My question is, does this imply that the difference between them is a non-convex function, since it results from "difference between two convex" functions ?
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About the convexity of Ky Fan's norm
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As bubba remarked, being the difference of two convex functions does not imply either convexity or non-convexity. We have to actually look at the function. The simplest nontrivial example is $k=1$ for $2\times 2$ diagonal matrices with positive entries on the diagonal: $$ M=\begin{pmatrix}a & 0 \\ 0 & d \end{pmatrix}, \quad \sigma_1(M)=\max(a,d), \ \sigma_2(M)=\min(a,d) \tag1$$ The function $\sigma_2(M)=\min(a,d)$ is not convex, as you can check by considering its values at $(a,d)=(1,3)$, $(a,d)=(2,2)$, and $(a,d)=(3,1)$.
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First of all, every norm is a convex function, so the mention of the Ky Fan norms specifically is puzzling, unless you think these have additional relevant properties (which you didn't tell us about).
The difference between two convex functions could be convex or not.
Examples of both cases are easy to construct.
Also, if your proposed "difference theorem" were true, then, given two convex functions $f$ and $g$, both $f-g$ and $g-f$ would be convex.
So, no, nothing is implied by the convexity of the two norms.