Determine wether X and Y are independent with unknown joint PDF and/or marginal PDF

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$$f_{X,Y}(x,y)=f_X(x)f_Y(y)$$

This is the standard formula to determine if random variables $X$ and $Y$ are independent. Sometimes $f_{X,Y}(x,y)$ or $f_X(x)f_Y(y)$ are unknown and can be quite a hassle to calculate. I have compiled few shortcuts I have been using to determine relation between $X$ and $Y$. Any proof to verify or fringe cases to falsify my hypothesis are greatly appreciated.

Scenario 1:

$X$ is restricted by $Y$. Example: $0\le X\le Y$

$X$ and $Y$ are restricted by eachother. Example: $0\le X^2\le Y, \quad 0\le Y^2\le X$

The two scenarios above always imply that $X$ and $Y$ are not independent?

Scenario 2:

$\frac{f_{X,Y}(x,y)}{f_Y(y)}=f_{X\mid Y=y}(x)$ contain variable $Y$ and/or $\frac{f_{X,Y}(x,y)}{f_X(x)}=f_{Y\mid X=x}(y)$ contain variable $X$

Does this imply that $X$ and $Y$ are not independent?

Scenario 1+2:

If all the conditions above are satisfied, does it imply that $X$ and $Y$ are independent?

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  1. If the support for the joint distribution indicates a clear dependency --such as you say, if they restrict each other-- then indeed how can the random variables be considered independent?   However, a lack of such restriction does not signify independence.

  2. If the conditional measure is non-constant with respect to the conditioning variable (ie: does not equal the marginal measure), then that is a clear indication for dependence.   Ie: independence occurs exactly when $\forall y:f_X(x)=f_{X\mid Y}(x\mid y)$ when $f_{X}, f_{X\mid Y}$ are the marginal and conditional probability density (or mass) functions .