ı can show that by pigeonhole princible but ım confused.Is it true for 5 integers? what numbers are these? 1 to 14
2026-03-29 14:03:11.1774792991
S be a set of 6 positive integers whose max is most at 14. How to show that all subset of S cannot be distinct?
57 Views Asked by Bumbble Comm https://math.techqa.club/user/bumbble-comm/detail At
1
There are 1 best solutions below
Related Questions in DISCRETE-MATHEMATICS
- What is (mathematically) minimal computer architecture to run any software
- What's $P(A_1\cap A_2\cap A_3\cap A_4) $?
- The function $f(x)=$ ${b^mx^m}\over(1-bx)^{m+1}$ is a generating function of the sequence $\{a_n\}$. Find the coefficient of $x^n$
- Given is $2$ dimensional random variable $(X,Y)$ with table. Determine the correlation between $X$ and $Y$
- Given a function, prove that it's injective
- Surjective function proof
- How to find image of a function
- Find the truth value of... empty set?
- Solving discrete recursion equations with min in the equation
- Determine the marginal distributions of $(T_1, T_2)$
Related Questions in PIGEONHOLE-PRINCIPLE
- Is it possible to make a computer network of 75 computers
- Pigeonhole principle: prove that a class of 21 has at least 11 male or 11 female students.
- Proving that a set of 2016 natural numbers contain a non-empty set with a sum divisible by 2016
- Question on proof of Erdos and Szekeres
- Pigeon Hole Principle Proof integrated with sets
- # of vertices and # of connected components proof problem?
- Prove that any collection of 8 distinct integers contains distinct x and y such that x - y is divisible by 7.
- Hint for problem on $4 \times 7$-chessboard problem related to pigeonhole principle
- Pigeonhole principle subsets
- $80$ balls in a row. $50$ of them are yellow and $30$ are blue. Prove that there are at least $2$ blue balls with a distance of exactly $3$ or $6$.
Trending Questions
- Induction on the number of equations
- How to convince a math teacher of this simple and obvious fact?
- Find $E[XY|Y+Z=1 ]$
- Refuting the Anti-Cantor Cranks
- What are imaginary numbers?
- Determine the adjoint of $\tilde Q(x)$ for $\tilde Q(x)u:=(Qu)(x)$ where $Q:U→L^2(Ω,ℝ^d$ is a Hilbert-Schmidt operator and $U$ is a Hilbert space
- Why does this innovative method of subtraction from a third grader always work?
- How do we know that the number $1$ is not equal to the number $-1$?
- What are the Implications of having VΩ as a model for a theory?
- Defining a Galois Field based on primitive element versus polynomial?
- Can't find the relationship between two columns of numbers. Please Help
- Is computer science a branch of mathematics?
- Is there a bijection of $\mathbb{R}^n$ with itself such that the forward map is connected but the inverse is not?
- Identification of a quadrilateral as a trapezoid, rectangle, or square
- Generator of inertia group in function field extension
Popular # Hahtags
second-order-logic
numerical-methods
puzzle
logic
probability
number-theory
winding-number
real-analysis
integration
calculus
complex-analysis
sequences-and-series
proof-writing
set-theory
functions
homotopy-theory
elementary-number-theory
ordinary-differential-equations
circles
derivatives
game-theory
definite-integrals
elementary-set-theory
limits
multivariable-calculus
geometry
algebraic-number-theory
proof-verification
partial-derivative
algebra-precalculus
Popular Questions
- What is the integral of 1/x?
- How many squares actually ARE in this picture? Is this a trick question with no right answer?
- Is a matrix multiplied with its transpose something special?
- What is the difference between independent and mutually exclusive events?
- Visually stunning math concepts which are easy to explain
- taylor series of $\ln(1+x)$?
- How to tell if a set of vectors spans a space?
- Calculus question taking derivative to find horizontal tangent line
- How to determine if a function is one-to-one?
- Determine if vectors are linearly independent
- What does it mean to have a determinant equal to zero?
- Is this Batman equation for real?
- How to find perpendicular vector to another vector?
- How to find mean and median from histogram
- How many sides does a circle have?
Not a full solution, but hints for how to think about the problem:
If the maximal number you could choose were 16, every subset sum could be distinct for 5 numbers. But, with the max 14, only with four numbers or less will you find every subset sum is distinct.
In general, to maximize the number of subset sums, you will want powers of 2. This is because $2^n -1 = \sum_{k=0}^{n-1} 2^k$. There is no way to use single copies of a lesser power of 2 to add to a greater power of 2, so powers of 2 are optimal for avoiding duplicate sums.
If the max is 14, a set of 4 positive integers producing all distinct subset sums would be $\{1,2,4,8\}$ (this is not the only one, of course). But notice that 1,2,4,8 can be used to create every subset sum from 0 to 15. There is no number that is "missing". So, suppose we remove one of these numbers to create missing subset sums (the goal being we want to remove one number and add two). Can you show that is not possible?
You can represent your five chosen numbers as $\{a,a+b_1,a+b_2,a+b_3,a+b_4\}$ with $b_1,b_2,b_3,b_4$ a set of four positive integers. Since 1,2,4,8 maximize the number of subset sums, we have $\{a,a+1,a+2,a+4,a+8\}$. We can have $a$ be any number from 1 to 6. If there were a solution with five positive integers, this is my guess at a configuration.
$$\{6,7,8,10,14\}$$
$6+8=14$
$$\{5,6,7,9,13\}$$
$6+7=13$
$$\{4,5,6,8,12\}$$
$4+8=12$
$$\{3,4,5,7,11\}$$
$4+7=11$
$$\{2,3,4,6,10\}$$
$4+6=10$
$$\{1,2,3,5,9\}$$
$1+2=3$
So, I highly doubt there is a set of five positive integers that would satisfy this problem.