Torsion is defined as $\tau=-\frac{\mathrm{d}\vec{B}}{\mathrm{d}s}\cdot \vec{N}$. Why is it not just $\tau=\frac{\mathrm{d}\vec{B}}{\mathrm{d}s}\cdot \vec{N}$? Could someone please show me a diagram showing $\frac{\mathrm{d}\vec{B}}{\mathrm{d}s}$, $\vec{N}$, $\vec{T}$, and $\vec{B}$ as a particle under torsion moves along a path?
2026-04-07 22:54:49.1775602489
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I can't provide a diagram, but can present the relevant equations which show the origins of the equation
$\tau = -\dfrac{d \vec B}{ds} \cdot \vec N = -\dot{\vec B} \cdot \vec N. \tag 1$
I assume the reader is familiar with the first Frenet-Serret equation
$\dot{\vec T} = \kappa \vec N, \tag 2$
where
$\Vert \vec N \Vert = 1 \tag 3$
and
$\kappa > 0; \tag 4$
since
$\vec T \cdot \vec T = 1, \tag 5$
we of course have
$\dot{\vec T} \cdot \vec T + \vec T \cdot \dot{\vec T} \Longrightarrow 2 \dot{\vec T} \cdot \vec T \Longrightarrow \dot{\vec T} \cdot \vec T = 0$ $\Longrightarrow \kappa \vec N \cdot \vec T = 0 \Longrightarrow \vec N \cdot \vec T = 0; \tag 5$
$\vec N \cdot \vec T = 0 \tag 6$
yields, in light of (1),
$\dot{\vec N} \cdot \vec T + \vec N \cdot \dot{\vec T} = 0 \Longrightarrow \dot{\vec N} \cdot \vec T + \vec N \cdot \dot{\vec T} = 0$ $\Longrightarrow \dot{\vec N} \cdot \vec T + \vec N \cdot \kappa \vec Nb\Longrightarrow \dot{\vec N} \cdot T = -\kappa, \tag 7$
which shows that the component of $\dot{\vec N}$ along $\vec T$ is $-\kappa$. Now by (3),
$\vec N \cdot \vec N = \Vert \vec N \Vert^2 = 1 \Longrightarrow \dot{\vec N} \cdot \vec N + \vec N \cdot \dot{\vec N} = 0$ $\Longrightarrow 2 \dot{\vec N} \cdot \vec N = 0 \Longrightarrow \dot{\vec N} \cdot \vec N = 0, \tag 8$
and so $\dot{\vec N}$ has no component along $\vec N$ itself; since we are operating in $\Bbb R^3$, it is possible there is another component of $\dot{\vec N}$ normal to both $\vec T$ and $\vec N$; this motivates us to define
$\vec B = \vec T \times \vec N; \tag 9$
it follows from (3), (5) and (6) that
$\Vert B \Vert = 1, \tag{10}$
and from the definition of cross product that
$\vec T \cdot \vec B = \vec N \cdot \vec B = 0; \tag{11}$
thus $\vec T$, $\vec N$ and $\vec B$ form an orthonormal triad in $\Bbb R^3$ and hence we may complete the description of $\dot{\vec N}$ by specifying its component along $\vec B$; thus the torsion $\tau$ enters by means of the equation
$\dot{\vec N} = -\kappa \vec T + \tau \vec B, \tag{12}$
which further implies
$\dot{\vec N} \cdot \vec B = \tau \vec B \cdot \vec B = \tau; \tag{13}$
now (1) follows by differenting the second equation in (11), for
$\vec N \cdot \vec B = 0 \Longrightarrow \dot{\vec N} \cdot \vec B + \vec N \cdot \dot{\vec B} = 0$ $\Longrightarrow \dot{\vec N} \cdot \vec B = -\vec N \cdot \dot{\vec B}; \tag{14}$
combining this with (13) yields
$\dot{\vec B} \cdot \vec N = -\tau, \tag{15}$
which is essentially (1).