Can we express the value of $b^a$ in terms of $c$ , where $c=a^b$?

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We know that ;

If $a+b = c$, then $b+a = c$

If $a-b = c$ , then $b-a=-c$

If $ab = c$ then $ba = c$

If $\dfrac{a}{b} = c$ then $\dfrac{b}{a} = \dfrac{1}{c}$

Now, I am curious to know that If $a^{b} = c$ , then what is $b^a$ in terms of $c$ ?

I tried using logarithms but failed to get the desired answer in terms of $c$.


EDIT: It has been made clear from the answers that $b^a$ is not unique because $a^b$ can also be expressed as $x^y$ where $x,y$ can take infinite values. However, what happens if $a$ and $b$ are not changed? I want to emphasize more on the numerical value of $b^a$ rather than preserving numerical value of $a^b$ and then changing it to for some other forms of $x,y$ such that $x^y=c$.

For example, $2^6 = 64$ and $6^2=36$ which is unique. It is clear that $64 = 4^3$ ;but we do not wish to change $a$ and $b$ by other possible values which also happen to be some solutions of the $c$.

Or in more mathematical terms, I am intrested in ;

If for some $a,b$ we have :

$a^b = c$ then find $y^x$ given that :

1)$x^y = c$ as well as

2)$x=a$ , $y=b$

If it is impossible to find, then please also provide a proof . Thanks!

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Consider $a=1$. Then you have: $a^b=c=1$ holds $\forall b\in\mathbb R$.

Can we determine the value of $b^a=b^1=b\,?$


If you're looking for a "more mathematical" answer with rigorous constraints, the following method might work for us.

Let $a$ and $b$ are real numbers, such that

$$0<a\neq 1\wedge 0<b\neq 1.$$

Then $\forall m>0$, you have

$$a^b=\left(a^m\right)^\left(\frac bm \right)=c$$

This implies that,

$$b^a:=\left(\frac bm \right)^{a^m}$$

Then, can the value of $\left(\frac bm \right)^{a^m}$ be unique $\forall m>0\,?$

Thus, you have shown that $b^a$ takes infinitely many number of different values.


Expanded and more detailed explanation:

If we cannot define your problem more precisely, we cannot offer a solution.

In this context $a$ and $b$ are fixed real numbers, such that $0<a\neq 1\wedge 0<b\neq 1$ holds. Then, define the number $c$ as $c:=a^b$. We need to find the algebraic function $f:\mathbb R^{+}\longrightarrow \mathbb R^{+}$, such that $f(c):=b^a$ holds. If we define the function $y:=f(c)$, then we consider $c$ as a variable. Otherwise, your question will lose its mathematical meaning if we don't consider $c$ as a variable. For instance:

$$c=2^3, \; f(c):=3^2$$

or

$$c=5^8,\; f(c):=8^5$$

Observe that, this is obviously impossible to construct the function $f:\mathbb R^{+}\longrightarrow \mathbb R^{+}, \,f(c)$ such that $f(c):=b^a$, where $f(c)$ is an algebraic function, that doesn't involve any of the numbers $a$ or $b$.

Proof: Applying the same argument $\forall m>0$ we have,

$$ \begin{align}&\begin{cases}f(c):=f\left(a^b\right)=b^a\\f(c):=f\left(\left(a^m\right)^\left(\frac bm \right)\right)=\left(\frac bm \right)^{a^m}\end{cases}\\ \implies &b^a=\left(\frac bm \right)^{a^m},\forall m>0\\ &\text {A contradiction.}\end{align} $$

In other words,

$f(c)\equiv b^a\equiv\left(\frac bm \right)^{a^m}$ is not unique.


Conclusion:

You can not construct the function $f:\mathbb R^{+}\longrightarrow \mathbb R^{+}, \,f(c)$ such that $f(c):=b^a$, where $f(c)$ is a standard mathematical function, that doesn't involve any of the numbers $a$ or $b$.

Remember that, you can easily construct the bivariate function $f(a,c)$ using logarithms. But, you can also construct the equivalent function $g(b,c)$ without using logarithms:

$$ \begin{align}&c=a^b\wedge 0<a,b\neq 1\\ \implies &a=c^{\frac 1b}\\ \implies &b^a=b^{c^{1/b}} \end{align} $$

Thus, your function can be defined as follows:

$$g:A \longrightarrow \mathbb R^{+},\;\;\;g(b,c):=b^{c^{1/b}}$$

where, $\begin{align}A:=&\left\{(b,c){\large{\mid}} b\in\mathbb R^{+}\setminus \left\{1\right\},\;c\in\mathbb R^{+}\right\}\end{align}$

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$$c = a^b = e^{b\log(a)} \implies \log(c) = b\log(a) \implies $$

$$b = \frac{\log(c)}{\log(a)} \implies b^a = \left[\frac{\log(c)}{\log(a)}\right]^a. $$


Alternative expression is that

$$c = a^b \implies b = \log_a(c) \implies b^a = \left[\log_a(c)\right]^a. \tag1 $$

Note
The expression in (1) above is different from

$$\log_a \left[c^a\right] = a \times \left[\log_a(c)\right].$$

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We have that for $a>0$ and $a\neq 1$, $b>0$ and $c>0$

$$a^b=c \iff b=\log_a c \iff b^a =\left(\log_a c\right)^a$$

otherwise it is not invertible in general, as for

$$c=\frac a b \iff \frac b a = \frac 1 c$$

wich requires $b\neq 0$ and $a \neq 0$.