How to find the probability of drawing certain cards by certain turns?

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I've been playing a ton of Marvel Snap lately. It's a card game with simple rules. You have 12 cards in your deck. You start with 3 cards and draw 1 card every turn for the 6 turns you play. This means that you draw 9 cards by the end of the game.

What I'm having trouble with is the chance of drawing combinations of cards by different turns. For example, let's say I want to draw Spider-Man by turn 4 and Miles Morales by turn 5. Say there's a combo play that requires me to play Spider-Man by turn 4 and Miles Morales by turn 5, so I have to draw them by those turns. I know that I have a 58.33% chance (7/12) of drawing Spider-Man by turn 4, and a 66.67% (8/12) chance of drawing Miles Morales by turn 5.

How do I find the chance of both events happening? I feel like simply multiplying the two probabilities together ignores edge cases, but is that how I solve this?

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For ease of syntax, label the cards A,B,C,...,J,K,L.

You want the probability of drawing A by turn 4, and (simultaneously) B by turn 5.

The probability is $~\dfrac{7}{12}~$ that A is one of the first $~7~$ cards.

There are a variety of ways of formally completing the problem. I will use two methods.

You are interested in the probability of also drawing a B by turn 5, given that you drew an A by turn 4.


$\underline{\text{Method 1}}$

Warning

This method, while valid, does not generalize well.

The only way to fail in drawing a B by turn 5, is if the B is one of the last $~4~$ cards, out of the $~11~$ cards remaining, given that the A was one of the first $~7~$ cards.

So, the probability of drawing the A by turn 4 and the B by turn 5 is

$$\frac{7}{12} - \left[ ~\frac{7}{12} \times \frac{4}{11} ~\right] $$

$$= \frac{7}{12} \times \left[ ~1 - \frac{4}{11} ~\right] $$

$$= \frac{7}{12} \times \frac{7}{11} = \frac{49}{132}.$$


$\underline{\text{Method 2}}$

Let $~E_1~$ denote the event that you draw the A on or before the 1st 4 turns.

Let $~E_2~$ denote the event that you draw the B on or before the 1st 5 turns.

You want to compute

$$p(E_1) \times p(E_2 ~| ~E_1). \tag1 $$

In (1) above, the second factor represents the probability of event $E_2$ occurring given that event $E_1$ has occurred.

As discussed, $~p(E_1) = \dfrac{7}{12}.~$

To compute $~p(E_2 ~| ~E_1), ~$ assume that event $~E_1~$ has occurred and then ask yourself how that assumption has affected whether event $~E_2~$ will also occur.

In consideration of event $~E_2~$ by itself, without any regard for whether event $~E_1~$ has occurred, you would be presuming that you have a $~12~$ card deck, and you want to know the probability that the B is one of the first $~8~$ cards.

Under the assumption that event $~E_1~$ is one of the first $~7~$ cards, the circumstances in the previous paragraph have changed in two ways:

  • With the A occurring somewhere in the first $~7~$ card positions, there are only $~(8-1) = 7~$ remaining positions that the B can satisfactorily occur.

  • With the A occurring somewhere in the first $~7~$ card positions, in your attempt to receive the card B soon enough, you are (in effect) battling an $~11~$ card deck, since the A has been eliminated from consideration.

Therefore,

$$p(E_2 ~| ~E_1) = \frac{7}{11} \implies p(E_1) \times p(E_2 ~| ~E_1) = \frac{7}{12} \times \frac{7}{11}.$$


Addendum

This section is added purely as a sanity check. I strongly suspect that the problem composer intended that Method 2 above be used.

There are two ways of succeeding in getting the A and B in a timely manner.

  • You get the A in the first 7 cards, and then get the B specifically on card 8.
    The probability of this happening is
    $\displaystyle \frac{7}{12} \times \frac{1}{11}.$

  • You get both the A and the B in the first $~7~$ cards.
    The probability of this happening is
    $\displaystyle \frac{\binom{7}{2}}{\binom{12}{2}} = \frac{7 \times 6}{12 \times 11}.$

Summing the two mutually exclusive cases give you

$$\frac{[~7 \times 1 ~] + [~7 \times 6 ~]}{12 \times 11}.$$

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I do not know this game, and hope that I have understood your question correctly, so far.

The probability of drawing Spider-Man (SM) by turn $4$ is $P(\text{SM},4)=7/12=58.33\%$.

The conditional probability of drawing Miles Morales by turn 5, given that you've already drawn Spider-Man.

Now keep in mind, that by turn $4$, you have drawn $4$ cards, one of which is Spider-Man. There remain 8 cards in the deck, including Miles Morales (MM) and I get: $P(\text{MM},5)= 1/8$.

Now, I just multiply the probabilities together: $P=(7/12) * (1/8) = 7/96 ≈ 7.29\%$. This must be the probability of drawing Spider-Man by turn $4$ and Miles Morales by turn $5$.